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Editing other people's post shouldn't be allowed

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The way my posts are written is the intended one, if someone edits them without my permission, he is violating my will. I hope it is a bug and people only wanted to propose an edit, not forcing it, but I don't expect it to be the case, honestly and sadly. If my prose is poor, my answer erroneous, or my formatting confusing or ugly, either ask me to change them or downvote me, if someone makes the changes for me, it is not my answer anymore: my real answer was replaced and the alternative one is put under my name. If someone is not agreeable and doesn't want to change his answer, anyone can write a new one using the arguments of the "bad" one, after all the most restrictive license is CC BY-SA 4.0.

I request users be able to edit only their own posts.

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This post is great example of why anyone should be able to edit. (7 comments)
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One of the major aims of the Codidact project has always been to create a community-driven knowledge-sharing platform. Part of that is the ability to collaborate: posts are not intended to just solve one person's problem or answer one person's question, but to provide solutions for people who come looking in the future. One of the ways we help provide for that is by allowing for community editing.

Not everyone can edit directly: new users start with the ability to "suggest" edits, which are reviewed by more experienced community members. (There are also globally-editable post types which can be edited directly by anyone, but those aren't in use everywhere.) Once someone gains enough experience and a proven track record of good edits, they are trusted with the ability to edit directly.

Edits are encouraged to improve the post but not to alter its substance or meaning. That means that edits which fix spelling, grammar, etc are encouraged, as are edits that help provide clarification where a post needs it. Edits that change the meaning of the post or that add entirely new content to it should probably be an answer of their own instead, and you're welcome to point this out to editors and/or undo edits that do this - but edits that are an objective improvement to the post are the expected norm here.

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You are taking the easy route (5 comments)
You are taking the easy route
JohnnyJohn‭ wrote 5 months ago

It is your community, you do what you want with it, but I honestly think forcing edits are for the community's detriment. It is supposed to be "community-first" (as can be read everywhere in this site) but if you don't respect the users, how can that be?

I think I understand your point: what is important is the quality of the texts. That's okay but I think that is self-organizing: the greater the quality of the post, the greater the engagement and the better the responses it gets. If quality is celebrated, quality will be begotten. But, if you impose quality, those that can't or don't want to achieve it, won't write at all because they will be rejected.

I am greatly discouraged from writting now because I know if someone doesn't like what I write he will change it. I will post at least one more answer because I already solved (or at least I think I did) the problem and the asker is not guilty of the site's policy.

I think Codidact should look for other solutions for quality control.

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote 5 months ago · edited 5 months ago

JohnnyJohn‭ if you impose quality, those that can't or don't want to achieve it, won't write - That's a Good Thing.

However, that's not what your issue is about. The mechanism you object to doesn't "impose quality" on you. That is judged and dealt with other ways, by voting, closing, flagging, and in egregious cases, banning. Allowing others to fix obvious errors actually helps you achieve higher quality.

Again, edits by others should respect author intent and style. The vast majority of other-user edits I have seen do so. Can you point to cases where you think edits were abusive?

JohnnyJohn‭ wrote 5 months ago

What I consider instrusive (or abusive if you want to call it that) is that post could be edited by people other than the poster. I only suffered it once as far as I know but fool me twice, shame on me. I think the LaTeX looks nicer after the edit but he could have teach me how to do it, ask me what I thought about the changes, et cētera. Even if that hadn't happened, I don't support people editing others' posts because, as I said, it is a violation of their resolution. I don't want to participate in a community where will and effort are not taken into account. I don't care about reputation, I care about respect. And I do care about quality but not as a thing to have but as an attribute to pursue. If you repress your users, how can they make better questions and answers?

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote 5 months ago

JohnnyJohn‭ Unfortunately the LaTeX isn't rendered in the edit history, so I can't see what that post looked like before and after the edit. If all he did was fix formatting, then I don't see a problem unless you have a reason you think your thoughts are better presented before the edit. In that case, just roll the edit back.

Look at both versions objectively. Do you think the new version is a better presentation without changing the message or whatever style you want to project? If so, then there is no reason to get upset or feel slighted, and you need to get over the idea that this is somehow disrespectful. That's how this site is intended to work. If you honestly believe the original is better, then by all means roll back the edit. If you do, it would be helpful to explain why, although that is not required.

JohnnyJohn‭ wrote 5 months ago

you need to get over the idea that this is somehow disrespectful that is my only or, at least, main concern so I don't see any way we can come to terms. I am deeply saddened by it but it is what it is. I accept which your policies are and decide not to participate anymore. I wish they were different but I can't do anything about it, so farewell. Maybe I will answer some more questions in the Q&A I have thought about and/or fix the problems in the ones I already posted.