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Can we add without using addition?

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Is there a formula that applies $a + b = c$ without addition. I tried many times to make such equation.

Here's what I have in mind, we get 2 values, call them $a$ and $b$. The objective is to get the sum, without using addition at all. What does "no addition" mean here? Basically, you can't use the addition operator in the equation. In fact, subtracting the additive inverse of $b$ to $a$ still counts as using the addition operator. No $\sum$ either.

So what else? "I tried many times to make such equation." Here's an example I did with $2 + 3 = 5$:

$$2 + 3 = 5$$ $$2 \times 3 = 6 \ne 5$$ $$6 - (3 - 2) = 6 - 1 = 5$$

So I thought $(a \times b) - (b - a)$ was plausible, but then I tried $3 + 6 = 9$:

$$3 + 6 = 9$$ $$3 \times 6 = 18 \ne 9$$ $$18 - (6 - 3) = 18 - 3 = 15 \ne 9$$

I haven't tried division yet because it can result to decimals, and we all know how fuzzy they are.

If it is even possible, can you get 2 values to result to their sum without any form of addition?

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Generally it doesn't make any sense (1 comment)
You used addition in your proposed method. (2 comments)
Unclear what ‘pretty much just addition’ forbids (2 comments)
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You could use the Peano axioms instead to define addition - using the successor function,

$$a + 0 = a $$

$$a + S(b) = S(a + b)$$

But I'd argue that this is not different - addition is defined this way to begin with...

In my opinion the question makes no sense - addition is addition, you can break it down to its definition, but that's still addition...

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indeed, the question makes no sense (1 comment)
indeed, the question makes no sense
4015.alt‭ wrote almost 3 years ago
  • addition (summation) is addition.
  • subtraction is an addition, in D instead of N.
  • Multiplication (adding the same quantity multiple times) also is an addition

So no matter what symbol or operator you're trying to use, when trying to manipulate number, according to the question stated rules, you'll end up using the basic operation between them, which is addition.