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Q&A Are there combinatorial games $G$ such that $G+G$ is fuzzy?

posted 4mo ago by r~~‭  ·  edited 4mo ago by r~~‭

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#2: Post edited by user avatar r~~‭ · 2026-05-07T18:05:53Z (4 months ago)
  • Yes. A simple example is \(G = \{1\mathop|* \mathop- 1\}\).
  • If Left goes first in \(G + G\), their only move is to \(G + 1\), after which Right's only move is to \(* \mathop- 1 + 1 = *\), after which Left moves to 0 and wins.
  • If Right goes first in \(G + G\), their only move is to \(G + * - 1\). Left has two options: play in \(G\) or in \(*\).
  • * If Left moves to \(1 + * - 1 = *\), Right moves to 0 and wins.
  • * If Left moves to \(G - 1\), Right may move to \(* - 2\), after which Left must move to \(-2\), and Right wins.
  • \(G + G\) is thus a win for the first player, and therefore a fuzzy game.
  • Yes (such games exist). A simple example is \(G = \{1\mathop|* \mathop- 1\}\).
  • If Left goes first in \(G + G\), their only move is to \(G + 1\), after which Right's only move is to \(* \mathop- 1 + 1 = *\), after which Left moves to 0 and wins.
  • If Right goes first in \(G + G\), their only move is to \(G + * - 1\). Left has two options: play in \(G\) or in \(*\).
  • * If Left moves to \(1 + * - 1 = *\), Right moves to 0 and wins.
  • * If Left moves to \(G - 1\), Right may move to \(* - 2\), after which Left must move to \(-2\), and Right wins.
  • \(G + G\) is thus a win for the first player, and therefore a fuzzy game.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar r~~‭ · 2026-05-07T18:05:07Z (4 months ago)
Yes. A simple example is \(G = \{1\mathop|* \mathop- 1\}\).

If Left goes first in \(G + G\), their only move is to \(G + 1\), after which Right's only move is to \(* \mathop- 1 + 1 = *\), after which Left moves to 0 and wins.

If Right goes first in \(G + G\), their only move is to \(G + * - 1\). Left has two options: play in \(G\) or in \(*\).
* If Left moves to \(1 + * - 1 = *\), Right moves to 0 and wins.
* If Left moves to \(G - 1\), Right may move to \(* - 2\), after which Left must move to \(-2\), and Right wins.

\(G + G\) is thus a win for the first player, and therefore a fuzzy game.