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Q&A Strange behavior in elections and pie charts

posted 4mo ago by Agent Smith‭  ·  edited 4mo ago by Agent Smith‭

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#3: Post edited by user avatar Agent Smith‭ · 2024-01-16T18:14:29Z (4 months ago)
  • My approach is, I suppose, simpler.
  • There are 4 voters: A, B, C, D. They vote randomly
  • There are 4 candidates vying for A, B, C, D's attention. Let's call them W, X, Y, Z
  • How many different possible electorate results are there?
  • 1 candidate gets all 4 votes: $^4C_1 = 4$
  • 1 candidate gets 3 votes: $^4C_1 \times ^3C_1 = 12$
  • 1 candidate gets 2 votes (half the votes): $^4C_1 \times ^3C_2 = 12$
  • All candidates get 1 vote each: $^4P_4 = 24$
  • Total = $4 + 12 + 12 + 24 = 52$
  • Probability that one candidate gets at least 50% of the votes = $P(50\%)$
  • $P(50\%) = \frac{28}{52} = \frac{7}{13}$
  • I don't know how to generalize this "finding" though. What I can perhaps say that I know is the electorate is going to be myriad and the candidates, comparatively few.
  • How does that affect the probability? Feels very tower of Hanoish and I don't have what it takes to solve that problem.
  • Side quest: Despite the fact that this is a discrete distribution (1 or 2 votes, not 1.5 votes), the OP has chosen a continuous model (area). Does the fact that the answer is in combinatorics form, $\frac{n!}{(n - 1)!}$ mean anything?
  • My approach is, I suppose, simpler.
  • There are 4 voters: A, B, C, D. They vote randomly
  • There are 4 candidates vying for A, B, C, D's attention. Let's call them W, X, Y, Z
  • How many different possible electorate results are there?
  • 1 candidate gets all 4 votes: $^4C_1 = 4$
  • 1 candidate gets 3 votes: $^4C_1 \times ^3C_1 = 12$
  • 1 candidate gets 2 votes (half the votes): $^4C_1(^3C_1 + ^3C_2) = 24$
  • All candidates get 1 vote each: $^4C_4 = 1$
  • Total = $4 + 12 + 24 + 1 = 41$
  • Probability that one candidate gets at least 50% of the votes = $P(50\%)$
  • $P(50\%) = \frac{40}{41}$
  • I don't know how to generalize this "finding" though. What I can perhaps say that I know is the electorate is going to be myriad and the candidates, comparatively few.
  • How does that affect the probability? Feels very tower of Hanoish and I don't have what it takes to solve that problem.
  • Side quest: Despite the fact that this is a discrete distribution (1 or 2 votes, not 1.5 votes), the OP has chosen a continuous model (area). Does the fact that the answer is in combinatorics form, $\frac{n!}{(n - 1)!}$ mean anything?
#2: Post edited by user avatar Agent Smith‭ · 2024-01-16T13:08:31Z (4 months ago)
  • My approach is, I suppose, simpler.
  • There are 4 voters: A, B, C, D. They vote randomly
  • There are 3 candidates vying for A, B, C, D's attention. Let's call them W, X, Y, Z
  • How many different possible electorate results are there?
  • 1 candidate gets all 4 votes: $^4C_1 = 4$
  • 1 candidate gets 3 votes: $^4C_1 \times ^3C_1 = 12$
  • 1 candidate gets 2 votes (half the votes): $^4C_1 \times ^3C_2 = 12$
  • All candidates get 1 vote each: $^4P_4 = 24$
  • Total = $4 + 12 + 12 + 24 = 52$
  • Probability that one candidate gets at least 50% of the votes = $P(50\%)$
  • $P(50\%) = \frac{28}{52} = \frac{7}{13}$
  • I don't know how to generalize this "finding" though. What I can perhaps say that I know is the electorate is going to be myriad and the candidates, comparatively few.
  • How does that affect the probability? Feels very tower of Hanoish and I don't have what it takes to solve that problem.
  • Side quest: Despite the fact that this is a discrete distribution (1 or 2 votes, not 1.5 votes), the OP has chosen a continuous model (area). Does the fact that the answer is in combinatorics form, $\frac{n!}{(n - 1)!}$ mean anything?
  • My approach is, I suppose, simpler.
  • There are 4 voters: A, B, C, D. They vote randomly
  • There are 4 candidates vying for A, B, C, D's attention. Let's call them W, X, Y, Z
  • How many different possible electorate results are there?
  • 1 candidate gets all 4 votes: $^4C_1 = 4$
  • 1 candidate gets 3 votes: $^4C_1 \times ^3C_1 = 12$
  • 1 candidate gets 2 votes (half the votes): $^4C_1 \times ^3C_2 = 12$
  • All candidates get 1 vote each: $^4P_4 = 24$
  • Total = $4 + 12 + 12 + 24 = 52$
  • Probability that one candidate gets at least 50% of the votes = $P(50\%)$
  • $P(50\%) = \frac{28}{52} = \frac{7}{13}$
  • I don't know how to generalize this "finding" though. What I can perhaps say that I know is the electorate is going to be myriad and the candidates, comparatively few.
  • How does that affect the probability? Feels very tower of Hanoish and I don't have what it takes to solve that problem.
  • Side quest: Despite the fact that this is a discrete distribution (1 or 2 votes, not 1.5 votes), the OP has chosen a continuous model (area). Does the fact that the answer is in combinatorics form, $\frac{n!}{(n - 1)!}$ mean anything?
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Agent Smith‭ · 2024-01-16T13:07:51Z (4 months ago)
My approach is, I suppose, simpler.

There are 4 voters: A, B, C, D. They vote randomly

There are 3 candidates vying for A, B, C, D's attention. Let's call them W, X, Y, Z

How many different possible electorate results are there?

1 candidate gets all 4 votes: $^4C_1 = 4$  
1 candidate gets 3 votes: $^4C_1 \times ^3C_1 = 12$  
1 candidate gets 2 votes (half the votes): $^4C_1 \times ^3C_2 = 12$  
All candidates get 1 vote each: $^4P_4 = 24$  

Total = $4 + 12 + 12 + 24 = 52$  

Probability that one candidate gets at least 50% of the votes = $P(50\%)$

$P(50\%) = \frac{28}{52} = \frac{7}{13}$

I don't know how to generalize this "finding" though. What I can perhaps say that I know is the electorate is going to be myriad and the candidates, comparatively few.

How does that affect the probability? Feels very tower of Hanoish and I don't have what it takes to solve that problem.

Side quest: Despite the fact that this is a discrete distribution (1 or 2 votes, not 1.5 votes), the OP has chosen a continuous model (area). Does the fact that the answer is in combinatorics form, $\frac{n!}{(n - 1)!}$ mean anything?