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#2: Post edited
- Another way to write the proof is to use an alternative equivalent definition of supremum:
- > For a bounded set of real numbers $A$, $L=\sup A$ if
- >- $L$ is an upper bound for $A$, i.e., for all $a\in A$: $a\le L$;
- >- any number smaller than $L$ is *not* an upper bound of $A$: for every $\epsilon>0$, there exists $a\in A$ such that $a>L-\epsilon$.
As in the other answer, we let $L=(\sup A)(\sup B)$ and we show that- - $L$ is an upper bound for $A\cdot B$;
- - for every $\epsilon>0$, there exists $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ such that
- $$
- ab> L-\epsilon\tag{1}
- $$
- The first statement is proved in the same way as in the other answer. Let us show the second one. Let $\epsilon >0$. We want to find $a$ and $b$ so that (1) holds.
- By the definition of supremum, for every $\epsilon'>0$, we can find $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ so that
- $$
- a+\epsilon'>\sup A,\quad b+\epsilon' >\sup B
- $$
- which gives $$ab+(a+b)\epsilon'+(\epsilon')^2>L\tag{2}$$
- So, if we pick $\epsilon'$ so that
- $$
- \epsilon \ge (\sup(A)+\sup(B)+1)\epsilon'
- $$
- and correspondingly, the $a$ and $b$ that (2) holds, we have
- $$
- ab+\epsilon \ge ab +(\sup(A)+\sup(B)+1)\epsilon'\ge ab+(a+b+\epsilon')\epsilon'>L.
- $$
- We are done.
- Another way to write the proof is to use an alternative equivalent definition of supremum:
- > For a bounded set of real numbers $A$, $L=\sup A$ if
- >- $L$ is an upper bound for $A$, i.e., for all $a\in A$: $a\le L$;
- >- any number smaller than $L$ is *not* an upper bound of $A$: for every $\epsilon>0$, there exists $a\in A$ such that $a>L-\epsilon$.
- As in [the other answer](https://math.codidact.com/posts/290512/290513#answer-290513), we let $L=(\sup A)(\sup B)$ and we show that
- - $L$ is an upper bound for $A\cdot B$;
- - for every $\epsilon>0$, there exists $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ such that
- $$
- ab> L-\epsilon\tag{1}
- $$
- The first statement is proved in the same way as in the other answer. Let us show the second one. Let $\epsilon >0$. We want to find $a$ and $b$ so that (1) holds.
- By the definition of supremum, for every $\epsilon'>0$, we can find $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ so that
- $$
- a+\epsilon'>\sup A,\quad b+\epsilon' >\sup B
- $$
- which gives $$ab+(a+b)\epsilon'+(\epsilon')^2>L\tag{2}$$
- So, if we pick $\epsilon'$ so that
- $$
- \epsilon \ge (\sup(A)+\sup(B)+1)\epsilon'
- $$
- and correspondingly, the $a$ and $b$ that (2) holds, we have
- $$
- ab+\epsilon \ge ab +(\sup(A)+\sup(B)+1)\epsilon'\ge ab+(a+b+\epsilon')\epsilon'>L.
- $$
- We are done.
#1: Initial revision
Another way to write the proof is to use an alternative equivalent definition of supremum: > For a bounded set of real numbers $A$, $L=\sup A$ if >- $L$ is an upper bound for $A$, i.e., for all $a\in A$: $a\le L$; >- any number smaller than $L$ is *not* an upper bound of $A$: for every $\epsilon>0$, there exists $a\in A$ such that $a>L-\epsilon$. As in the other answer, we let $L=(\sup A)(\sup B)$ and we show that - $L$ is an upper bound for $A\cdot B$; - for every $\epsilon>0$, there exists $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ such that $$ ab> L-\epsilon\tag{1} $$ The first statement is proved in the same way as in the other answer. Let us show the second one. Let $\epsilon >0$. We want to find $a$ and $b$ so that (1) holds. By the definition of supremum, for every $\epsilon'>0$, we can find $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ so that $$ a+\epsilon'>\sup A,\quad b+\epsilon' >\sup B $$ which gives $$ab+(a+b)\epsilon'+(\epsilon')^2>L\tag{2}$$ So, if we pick $\epsilon'$ so that $$ \epsilon \ge (\sup(A)+\sup(B)+1)\epsilon' $$ and correspondingly, the $a$ and $b$ that (2) holds, we have $$ ab+\epsilon \ge ab +(\sup(A)+\sup(B)+1)\epsilon'\ge ab+(a+b+\epsilon')\epsilon'>L. $$ We are done.