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#3: Post edited by user avatar celtschk‭ · 2023-02-04T07:17:03Z (almost 2 years ago)
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  • A counterexample would be the set $S=\{0,1,2\}$ with the topologies $\mathcal T = \{\emptyset, \{0\}, \{0,1\}, S\}$and $\mathcal T' = \{\emptyset,\{0\},S\}$. Clearly $\mathcal T'$ is not finer than $\mathcal T$.
  • Now $\mathcal T$ is generated by the basis $\mathscr B = \{\{0\},\{0,1\},S\}$ and $\mathcal T'$ is generated $\mathscr B' = \{\{0\},S\}$.
  • Now (2') is fulfilled, as for every non-empty $B\in\mathscr B$, the set $B'=\{0\}\in \mathscr B'$ we have $B'\subset B$.
  • Thus this gives a counterexample to (2')$\implies$(1).
  • A counterexample would be the set $S=\{0,1,2\}$ with the topologies $\mathcal T = \{\emptyset, \{0\}, \{0,1\}, S\}$and $\mathcal T' = \{\emptyset,\{0\},S\}$. Clearly $\mathcal T'$ is not finer than $\mathcal T$.
  • Now $\mathcal T$ is generated by the basis $\mathscr B = \{\{0\},\{0,1\},S\}$ and $\mathcal T'$ is generated by $\mathscr B' = \{\{0\},S\}$.
  • Now (2') is fulfilled, as for every non-empty $B\in\mathscr B$, the set $B'=\{0\}\in \mathscr B'$ is such that $B'\subset B$.
  • Thus this gives a counterexample to (2')$\implies$(1).
#2: Post edited by user avatar celtschk‭ · 2023-02-04T07:14:10Z (almost 2 years ago)
fixed typo
  • A counterexample would be the set $S=\{0,1,2\}$ with the topologies $\mathcal T = \{\emptyset, \{0\}, \{0,1\}, S\}$and $\mathcal T' = \{\emptyset,\{0\},S\}$. Clearly $\mathcal T'$ is not finer than $\mathcal T$.
  • Nor $\mathcal T$ is generated by the basis $\mathscr B = \{\{0\},\{0,1\},S\}$ and $\mathcal T'$ is generated $\mathscr B' = \{\{0\},S\}$.
  • Now (2') is fulfilled, as for every non-empty $B\in\mathscr B$, the set $B'=\{0\}\in \mathscr B'$ we have $B'\subset B$.
  • Thus this gives a counterexample to (2')$\implies$(1).
  • A counterexample would be the set $S=\{0,1,2\}$ with the topologies $\mathcal T = \{\emptyset, \{0\}, \{0,1\}, S\}$and $\mathcal T' = \{\emptyset,\{0\},S\}$. Clearly $\mathcal T'$ is not finer than $\mathcal T$.
  • Now $\mathcal T$ is generated by the basis $\mathscr B = \{\{0\},\{0,1\},S\}$ and $\mathcal T'$ is generated $\mathscr B' = \{\{0\},S\}$.
  • Now (2') is fulfilled, as for every non-empty $B\in\mathscr B$, the set $B'=\{0\}\in \mathscr B'$ we have $B'\subset B$.
  • Thus this gives a counterexample to (2')$\implies$(1).
#1: Initial revision by user avatar celtschk‭ · 2023-02-04T07:13:08Z (almost 2 years ago)
A counterexample would be the set $S=\{0,1,2\}$ with the topologies $\mathcal T = \{\emptyset, \{0\}, \{0,1\}, S\}$and $\mathcal T' = \{\emptyset,\{0\},S\}$. Clearly $\mathcal T'$ is not finer than $\mathcal T$.
Nor $\mathcal T$ is generated by the basis $\mathscr B = \{\{0\},\{0,1\},S\}$ and $\mathcal T'$ is generated $\mathscr B' = \{\{0\},S\}$.
Now (2') is fulfilled, as for every non-empty $B\in\mathscr B$, the set $B'=\{0\}\in \mathscr B'$ we have $B'\subset B$.

Thus this gives a counterexample to (2')$\implies$(1).