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Q&A Finding distance to parabola's focus, given some points

1 answer  ·  posted 2y ago by msh210‭  ·  edited 2y ago by Peter Taylor‭

Question geometry conics
#4: Post edited by user avatar Peter Taylor‭ · 2022-10-03T08:24:52Z (about 2 years ago)
Eliminating unhelpful tag algebra-precalculus
#3: Post edited by user avatar msh210‭ · 2022-03-21T20:49:02Z (over 2 years ago)
  • A high school student I know has the following problem:
  • > A parabola is given by $y^2=2px$ with $p>0$. The point $D$ is on the parabola in the first quadrant at a distance of $8$ from the $x$-axis.
  • >
  • > 1. Find the distance of $D$ from the directrix of the parabola, in terms of $p$.
  • >
  • > We draw two circles. One has its center at $D$ and a radius of $p+4$. The other has its center at the focus $F$ of the parabola. The latter circle is externally tangent to the first circle, and is tangent also to the $y$-axis.
  • >
  • > 2. Using part 1, find the equation of the parabola.
  • The student found $D=(\frac{32}p,8)$ and $F=(\frac p2,0)$ in part 1, and used those to express the distance between the circles' centers using the distance formula. The distance between the centers is also the sum of the given radii. Equating those two expressions of the distance yields $p^4+6p^3-8p^2-512=0$. And that's the sticking point. What should one do next? Or how else should one solve part 2?
  • ---
  • I did solve it as follows, but am pretty sure this is not the intended solution:
  • > That last equation yields $$(p^2+6p+8)p^2=16(p^2+32)$$Now, $p=4$ works by inspection. If $p\lessgtr4$ then $(p^2+6p+8)p^2\lessgtr(p^2+6\cdot4+8)16=16(p^2+32)$.
  • A high school student I know has the following problem:
  • > A parabola is given by $y^2=2px$ with $p>0$. The point $D$ is on the parabola in the first quadrant at a distance of $8$ from the $x$-axis.
  • >
  • > 1. Find the distance of $D$ from the directrix of the parabola, in terms of $p$.
  • >
  • > We draw two circles. One has its center at $D$ and a radius of $p+4$. The other has its center at the focus $F$ of the parabola. The latter circle is externally tangent to the first circle, and is tangent also to the $y$-axis.
  • >
  • > 2. Using part 1, find the equation of the parabola.
  • The student found $D=(\frac{32}p,8)$ and $F=(\frac p2,0)$ in part 1, and used those to express the distance between the circles' centers using the distance formula. The distance between the centers is also the sum of the given radii. Equating those two expressions of the distance yields $p^4+6p^3-8p^2-512=0$. And that's the sticking point. What should one do next? Or how else should one solve part 2?
  • ---
  • I did solve it as follows, but am pretty sure this is not the intended solution:
  • > That last equation yields $$(p^2+6p+8)p^2=16(p^2+32)$$Now, $p=4$ works by inspection. If $0<p\lessgtr4$ then $(p^2+6p+8)p^2\lessgtr(p^2+6\cdot4+8)16=16(p^2+32)$.
#2: Post edited by user avatar msh210‭ · 2022-03-21T20:47:35Z (over 2 years ago)
  • A high school student I know has the following problem:
  • > A parabola is given by $y^2=2px$ with $p>0$. The point $D$ is on the parabola in the first quadrant at a distance of $8$ from the $x$-axis.
  • >
  • > 1. Find the distance of $D$ from the directrix of the parabola, in terms of $p$.
  • >
  • > We draw two circles. One has its center at $D$ and a radius of $p+4$. The other has its center at the focus $F$ of the parabola. The latter circle is externally tangent to the first circle, and is tangent also to the $y$-axis.
  • >
  • > 2. Using part 1, find the equation of the parabola.
  • The student found $D=(\frac{32}p,8)$ and $F=(\frac p2,0)$ in part 1, and used those to express the distance between the circles' centers using the distance formula. The distance between the centers is also the sum of the given radii. The resulting equations come to $p^4+6p^3-8p^2-512=0$. And that's the sticking point. What should one do next? Or how else should one solve part 2?
  • ---
  • I did solve it as follows, but am pretty sure this is not the intended solution:
  • > That last equation yields $$(p^2+6p+8)p^2=16(p^2+32)$$Now, $p=4$ works by inspection. If $p\lessgtr4$ then $(p^2+6p+8)p^2\lessgtr(p^2+6\cdot4+8)16=16(p^2+32)$.
  • A high school student I know has the following problem:
  • > A parabola is given by $y^2=2px$ with $p>0$. The point $D$ is on the parabola in the first quadrant at a distance of $8$ from the $x$-axis.
  • >
  • > 1. Find the distance of $D$ from the directrix of the parabola, in terms of $p$.
  • >
  • > We draw two circles. One has its center at $D$ and a radius of $p+4$. The other has its center at the focus $F$ of the parabola. The latter circle is externally tangent to the first circle, and is tangent also to the $y$-axis.
  • >
  • > 2. Using part 1, find the equation of the parabola.
  • The student found $D=(\frac{32}p,8)$ and $F=(\frac p2,0)$ in part 1, and used those to express the distance between the circles' centers using the distance formula. The distance between the centers is also the sum of the given radii. Equating those two expressions of the distance yields $p^4+6p^3-8p^2-512=0$. And that's the sticking point. What should one do next? Or how else should one solve part 2?
  • ---
  • I did solve it as follows, but am pretty sure this is not the intended solution:
  • > That last equation yields $$(p^2+6p+8)p^2=16(p^2+32)$$Now, $p=4$ works by inspection. If $p\lessgtr4$ then $(p^2+6p+8)p^2\lessgtr(p^2+6\cdot4+8)16=16(p^2+32)$.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar msh210‭ · 2022-03-21T20:44:16Z (over 2 years ago)
Finding distance to parabola's focus, given some points
A high school student I know has the following problem:

> A parabola is given by $y^2=2px$ with $p>0$. The point $D$ is on the parabola in the first quadrant at a distance of $8$ from the $x$-axis.
> 
> 1. Find the distance of $D$ from the directrix of the parabola, in terms of $p$.
> 
> We draw two circles. One has its center at $D$ and a radius of $p+4$. The other has its center at the focus $F$ of the parabola. The latter circle is externally tangent to the first circle, and is tangent also to the $y$-axis.
> 
> 2. Using part 1, find the equation of the parabola.

The student found $D=(\frac{32}p,8)$ and $F=(\frac p2,0)$ in part 1, and used those to express the distance between the circles' centers using the distance formula. The distance between the centers is also the sum of the given radii. The resulting equations come to $p^4+6p^3-8p^2-512=0$. And that's the sticking point. What should one do next? Or how else should one solve part 2?

---
I did solve it as follows, but am pretty sure this is not the intended solution:

> That last equation yields $$(p^2+6p+8)p^2=16(p^2+32)$$Now, $p=4$ works by inspection. If $p\lessgtr4$ then $(p^2+6p+8)p^2\lessgtr(p^2+6\cdot4+8)16=16(p^2+32)$.