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Suppose you have $n>1$ books lined up on a shelf, numbered $1$ to $n$, not in the correct order, and you wish to put them in order. Here's your method: Choose a misplaced book[1] at random, and put it in its correct spot. For example, if $n=5$ and you pick book number $2$ out of spot number $4$, there are now four books left, and you put the book back between the first two, since it's book number $2$.

What's the maximum number of times you might have to do the pick-and-replace before the books are in order?


[1] meaning, a book numbered $k$ which is not in position $k$

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msh210‭ wrote over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago

Obviously for $n=2$ the maximum is $1$. It's not much harder to see that for $n=3$ the maximum is $3$ (just go through the cases). I ran a script to pick books at random repeatedly so I don't know for certain that I found the maximum, but the highest number I got was $7$ for $n=4$ and $15$ for $n=5$. But a formula (or recursion) would be very nice and a proof even nicer. (Those numbers look like $2^{n-1}-1$ so far but I don't think that that continues.)

Peter Taylor‭ wrote over 1 year ago

I've seen this problem before, I but can't remember the details. One thing which does stand out is that the extrema settle. If you consider e.g. ordering $1,2,5,3,4,6$, the $1,2,\ldots$ and $\ldots,6$ are now fixed.