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Is ‘How would you know to do the next step?’ always a bad question?

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We have a user who keeps posting questions of the form, ‘How would you [tortured synonym for “know”] to [do the next step in a proof]?’ Leaving aside the various other reasons that these posts are bad[1], my question is whether the question is intrinsically bad based on its form alone. (If so, I would assume that the policy should be to close any such question, as no amount of editing to solve the other problems would save it.)

  1. I don't want those other issues to be a distraction from the central question here. I'm only mentioning them so that people can consider what these posts might look like if they were otherwise written to be exemplary questions: if they showed understanding of or engagement with the surrounding context (well-researched), if they rewrote the central concepts in their own words instead of (or perhaps in addition to) posting large screenshots of the source material, if they were written using a vocabulary that wasn't needlessly obtuse and distracting (good English), and if they were questions about mathematical concepts instead of questions about understanding the non-mathematical parts of what an author is communicating (basic reading comprehension). ↩︎

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I think you're referring me? No offense, but your post appears inequitable. "[tortured synonym for “k... (4 comments)
I think you're referring me? No offense, but your post appears inequitable. "[tortured synonym for “k...
DNB‭ wrote about 3 years ago
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I think you're referring me? No offense, but your post appears inequitable. "[tortured synonym for “know”]" — My teacher used these words. And I don't mean "know". Prognosticating a step isn't the same as KNOWING a step. I know now that GME (GameStop stock price) rocketed to $488, but I didn't prognosticate this. "under-researched" — Which posts? What do you mean? I already use two textbooks on probability. How much more research you want? Do you want me look up five textbooks or something? "overuse of images" — Fine. I admit this. But I have disabilities! Mathjax is hard for me. You can see MathJax doesn't render in many posts! But I type out paragraphs that have just text.

DNB‭ wrote about 3 years ago · edited about 3 years ago
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"bad English" — This is ungracious. English is not my first language. You can't deny that fluency in English is hard. Or else whole world is fluent! "basic failures of reading comprehension" — Honestly, I have no idea what you mean. Where's evidence? Which posts are you referring? "... really, it tends to be a painfully long list" — Again, what do you mean? List your allegations please.

Peter Taylor‭ wrote about 3 years ago
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@DNB, your teacher seems to have a vocabulary full of obscure English words which reference supernatural beings or supernatural knowledge of the future (soothsay, augure, fey, sibylline, vaticinate), but that vocabulary isn't suitable for use (a) in mathematics; (b) with native English speakers who haven't studied classics; (c) with non-native English speakers. Prognosticate (or its far more common synonyms predict and forecast) doesn't work the way you want it to either: it's about anticipating future events, not your own immediate actions. The straightforward way to phrase these questions is as the title of this question (How would I know) or the very similar "How should I know".

r~~‭ wrote about 3 years ago
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@DNB, I have given you specific feedback on each of these points on questions where they are applicable. At some point I stopped trying, since you didn't seem to be trying to incorporate the feedback into your future questions and I have better things to do with my time. But regardless, this question isn't ‘let's talk about all the things DNB does wrong in their questions’ (and I accept the blame for originally writing the question in a way that might make you and others think that it is); it's about the specific issue of asking about how to know the next step in a proof.