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From an expected-value standpoint, is gambling the same as investing? [closed]

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Closed as not constructive by Peter Taylor‭ on Aug 27, 2026 at 19:47

This question cannot be answered in a way that is helpful to anyone. It's not possible to learn something from possible answers, except for the solution for the specific problem of the asker.

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Who’s correct, and why? Vadim Ponomarenko contends

From a mathematical expected-value standpoint, there is no difference between gambling (e.g. buying a lottery ticket) and investing (e.g. buying a share of stock). The former probably has negative expected value while the latter probably has positive expected value, but that is not a distinction to include in a definition (else every company that gives a bad quarterly earnings report suddenly changes categories).

But Ryan gainsaid

I downvoted this. The first sentence is incorrect. By the way, a stock that has recently lost value has NOT necessarily also lost expected future value.

Why is, or isn’t, gambling (e.g. buying a lottery ticket) the same as investing (e.g. buying a share of stock) in terms of expected value?

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We're not mind-readers (1 comment)
We're not mind-readers
Peter Taylor‭ wrote 21 days ago

One plausible explanation is that Vadim Ponomarenko's point is about expected value being a sum/integral over events of the value of the event weighted by the probability of the event, but if you want to know what they mean you should try asking them rather than random people on the Internet.